Boss SobanRe
Kiith Sobani
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Posted - 2014.09.13 05:10:00 -
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Agreed, this is a witch hunt propagated from:
The endless masses of lazy suits who don't use cover, or work as a group, or cournterplay
AV units who don't coordinate, or use their weapons correctly,
the majority pilots who aren't wise enough to bring a gunner,
Forgive them for they know not. However, I will attempt to oblige them.
Hello,
I am that rare stock Quasar has spoke of,
I do not claim to be a pilot, tanker, or driver.
I am a Gunner, I am nothing without the pilot
I am extension of the will of the pilot,
My turret, the extension of my soul.
We are the shipGÇÖs First, and Last defense.
Gunning is my livelihood.
Please tread lightly..
On the Videos:
the 1st video, Its a fine example of squaded up teamwork, against an inferior red force.
hardcore PC vs NPC players, There is hardly any AV in this , too many reds camping are not paying attention to the map when they spawn in, This is not a typical match.
The 2nd video of Pyrex one of his points is GÇ£do not touch this!GÇ¥
I dont agree with him that its a thales. more like a bolt pistol with some ROF, ammo, range
a bolt pistol can be OP in the ideal circumstances too. (a flanking cloaker)
Notice the Incubus is flying a still as possible, and Pyrex gets shot out.
1 ideally 2 AV unit(s) anything could have disrupted this.
instead the reds want to camp GÇÿAGÇÖ
Stacking OP? Certainly, Its not under powered. Its right where it should be, Its what makes the Gunner Role unique. It gives the true reason to skill into AV. It gives a good reason to bring a dedicated AV unit (rammer,forge,swarm,installation gunner,sniper,ADS) in a PC. It gives him substance.
Why would you want an ADS in the first place? AV/Infantry Clearing
Installation Removal, stacking gives the reason to bring a gunner.
Its what makes the ADS truly effective. Its a team based game, they were meant to have a gunner!
Python: It can fend off an incubus, possibly, kill it if it has the drop on him.
Incubus:It can end the flying bumper car game/stalemate in the sky
Both: Clear out camping enemies at key obj, Remove key installations, remove' 'stubborn' targets, countersniping
Non stacking? Some of you so GÇÿvetsGÇÖ claim to do GÇÿeverythingGÇÖ
chances are very good you do not gun.
5 dollars says you don't bring a gunner, and if you did, you are not truly effective with him.
Even if you were, he would not truly know how to be effective with it.
If he did know, you would be cramping his style and he wouldn't want to be flying in your ship.
It took us a year+ and 40 mil sp+ to get to this level of effectiveness.
Dont get me started on the hours invested.
If you say you had a gunner (or that you do gun) and are truly effective with him,
How can you be pro-gunner without being pro-fire-rate?
If your going to be up there, why not be effective at what you do?
Nonstacking?:
sure, I invite you to now try flying an Grimsnes with Rail turrets. No ROF here at least.
Try engaging an installation, that wasn't so bad was it? Did you have help?
engage a hardened/rep tank, What do you mean you're out of ammo? Ammo stacks
After all, good piloting/communication and positioning you can get the job done right?
Im not saying you cant, You can kill things while running solo with a smg too.
Now I want you to have a staring contest with a forgegunner,
Better hurry, Don't Overheat!
Don't worry good positioning will save you!
Try engaging an incubus. Hell, do it with a python see what happens.
Are you having trouble shooting past the nose? (positioning), Dont overheat!
Now try hitting a dancing swarmer. See, rotation speed also stacks.
Are you sure you don't want to stack rotation speed too? Nah, its too OP
Find a camp of 5 contacts. you might get one or two if you're lucky.
Come on, show me that you can do just as well without rate of fire/rotation speed.
You hit one right? (8 shots)Great! Now all you just have to do is hit him,again.(8 shots later). (miss) Np right?
What? you can't linger? You did take out that blaster/missle/rail Installation?!
But you're in a Grimsnes, You can stack even more plates/reps than an ADS,
I thought you heard that last swarmer? You mean you can't see them? It knocked you away?
Swarm blast blocked your vision? Forge move you from position?
Ok fly back into position, it wont take long right?
Why is that Blaster Turret shooting at you still!?
I told you to kill it!
You did get all of them right? The tank? The forge? the Swarmer?
Theres a sniper out there, better switch seats.
Oh hey, theres a rammer coming right at you. Better hurry!
Don't worry, good positioning will save you! You dont need ROF, do you?
To the action,There in the action, from the action?
Come on, you're a flying tank in the sky you can take it, right?!
You can linger! Good positioning will save you!
Maybe you should stay in the flight ceiling.
What? They can still hit you on the way up (400m)? You mean Gal has a weak point?
Maybe you should just stack armor.
Oh,Better yet, stack hardeners!
Ok, NOW make the shot!
So you your shot down, you managed to kill a few of their buddies.
I'm sure you guys have alot to talk about. Have fun!
Do you still think stacking OP?
Ok, now try it on the 3 point objective map!
Good now try it in Domination map of the 3 point objective map!
If ADS/+1 or +2 stacking was so OP then why isnt everyone doing it?
Why isn't there stacking ADS+gunner spam?
So you say you have the evidence and the formula, So.....where are all the aliens?!
Did the both of you profit from the match? Would an non stacked ADS do better?
in any given match I'm responsible for making all kinds of those clutch shots in the above mentioned scenarios.
Most of the time, within the entire gamut of AV going on.
A high rate of fire is paramount for accomplishing this.
The AV and installations do more than an adequate job countering ADS+1.
In truth i'm not a good shot....I'm just really really lucky!
-Boss Sobanre
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